Friday, 18 November 2011

Kel's backed

Well its been a long month of saddling, lunging and long reining. Kel is slowly becoming less fidgety and a little more patient - a good sign he is making the transition from baby to adult horse. His croup has risen and we're expecting another inch of growth in the next few months. He's roughly 15hh at the moment so he's going to be at least 15.1hh by the time he leaves us and perhaps 15.2hh at the most when he's finished growing. We only expected another inch but from past experience with cobs we know they usually don't really finish growing until they're about 7 or 8.
By all accounts he could have been backed a little earlier but a combination of bad weather, me being lazy and being introduced to NationalNovelWritingMonth (NaNoWriMo), I'm just a week or so behind schedule.
No matter though because he was backed this morning. After an absolute fiasco two days ago involving long reining, scary pigs and Kel bolting I wasn't wholly sure that he was ready. I walked him down past the pigs today and while he was indeed terrified, we got past them without incident. Then Peter got me on board and Kel walked around that yard like he'd done it every day of his life(Pics to come later). So a nice bottle of whisky for Peter for helping me out is in order.
Next stage will be riding on the lunge line then the round pen without a lead and then I'll set up a schooling boundary. I give it three weeks until I'm starting to school him and perhaps even his first hack in company.
Already he's tripled in worth and I could easily sell him now for £1200. But I'm in it for the long run and I won't be selling until he's had a good solid few months riding on him, has jumped a little and has seen his first show. I'm expecting about £2000 for him by the end of it, if not more considering he's such a showy boy.
Anyway, pictures will be following soon and I'll try to update you all a little more often.

Tuesday, 11 October 2011






Kel is doing very well and has settled quickly. In the course of three weeks he:


  • No longer wears a halter in the field

  • Comes to be caught in the field

  • Catches and leads much better

  • Has been groomed all over

  • Lifts all four feet

  • Has been bitted and bridled

  • Has had a bath (very scared of water currently)

  • Has been stabled for the first time

  • Has been rugged for the first time

  • Ties

  • Has seen the farrier and been wormed

  • Has had tetanus shots and microchipping

  • Has been lunged

  • Has been taken for a mile long walk in hand

  • Has had a bareback pad put on and the girth done up

He is brave, genuine and smart and I predict he will be ready to back by November. He's still a bit fussy with his head and likes to chuck it all over the place but he is getting there. He has also been in the field with Nell who flirted something terrible. He was glad of the company although he was a bit confused by Nell's behaviour. We've decided to keep the groups separated to avoid any injuries and unneccesary vet bills which may eat into my profit. He is kept right next to them and stabled with them and we are also fine with he and Nell going in together when Tralee is not around.

Sunday, 25 September 2011

Big steps forward

Kel was stabled for the first time today in his life. Whe first confronted with the small, dark box he followed me in while shaking like a leaf. Within a few minutes though and with a haynet and likit up to keep him busy, he chilled out. It was also the first time outside of the field since tuesday. He doesn't like puddles and he leads pretty badly. He's very strong, walks very close and is quite fidgity with his head - its all over the place. On the plus side, despite being totally overwhelmed and scared of everything, he kept moving forwards. No balking, no spinning. He even took the lead which was surprisingly easier that trying to keep him behind Nell or Rocky. He stood on my foot once when trying to dodge a puddle and once sidestepping in the stable, both through no fault of his own but I have my first youngster related injury now.
He had his first grooming session with me today so he's looking a little more presentable (with the benefits of added handling and bonding) and we tested his ability to pick up front feet which wasn't too bad after a bit of encouragement. Tomorrow we test his ability to tie and back feet. He accepts me grooming his back legs so I'm not expecting too many issues - although its always best to keep an air of caution around green horses just in case. So far he is turning out to be a decent little chap and although very inexperienced and nervous, is soldiering through it all. Despite the lack of confidence I think he'll be quite brave when confronted with the unknown. The signs are promising so far.

Friday, 23 September 2011

Celtic Flame







Told you he's a pretty boy! I'm going to passport him as an appaloosa x cob. He's got quite heavy bone but his fairly sparse tail indicates that appaloosa breeding was fairly close up on his pedigree so that's the cross I expect. I'd describe him as lightweight as he hasn't got the standard, short legs of a cob. The rest of him is quite well put together. His neck is a bit short but that's not really going to have much of an effect on his way of going under saddle. He's a nice straight mover and he has a big trot for a small horse. We shall see though. First things first will be to find out what he does and doesn't do.

Wednesday, 21 September 2011

The Project starts...

Finally, I have a project horse. He was an absolute bargain at just £400 although I've let myself in for something more than I originally intended.

So he's called Celtic. Or Kel. And we're passporting him as Celtic Flame.
He is a lovely 15hh, 5yr old bay appaloosa x cob. And he's a tad feral... He's insecure and I've certainly chosen a good one for my first breaking project. But he seems good natured enough. He's very nervous. They people who had him before did sweet FA with him from what I can tell and he's been nothing more than a spoiled field pet. He's never really seen anything and was fairly difficult to lead when we bought him back so there is going to have to be a major refresher course on manners and personal space. I havn't much time to blog tonight but I'll get a picture up soon. His conformation is pretty good and he moves nicely so somewhere along the line he should be a nice riding horse. For now though slowly does it.

Sunday, 12 June 2011

A more natural way


Nell's boots arrived but turns out they were too big. Having ordered two pairs of size 6, I tried them on her and had to send them back for a pair of size 5 and a pair of size 4. The new ones fit much better and she wore them for the first time in the field. Friday evening was the first maiden ride with them on and they worked briliantly. She has a memory of being footsore so hesitated before she got to rocky ground then stepped out to discover nothing hurt. They do look oversized on her large hooves with her skinny legs but as long as she's happy I'm happy. The next horse I have (if good fortune allows) will certainly be barefoot from the start.

So onto a related topic... How natural can you keep a horse? Well barefoot is a start but with the world being increasingly paved with un-natural substances it isn't always possible. But thats what hoof boots are made for. A quality boot lasts 6x longer on average than shoes. Yes, you must still trim and file but depending on your farrier's prices this may still work out a lot cheaper. Tony charges £50 for a set of shoes but he's an old farrier and coming up to retirement and we are doubtful that we will find another farrier that charges so cheaply. The local farriery company charges £75 for a set of standard shoes and a rediculous £90 for a horse of Rocky's size! Boots are certainly cheaper than that.

Turnout of course is essential to natural horses. Rugging is not being weak. I think even wild horses appreciate shelter from wind and rain and unless your horse is a mustang or a very hairy british native there is no reason to deprive your horse of a rug. Bringing your horse into a stable or shelter is also preferrable for most horses when the weather is foul. Stabling them all the time with only a little turnout is not natural though. It leads to steriotypical behaviour and hyperactivity when you come to work them. If lots of turnout is not possible at your yard you should either think about moving or ensure your horse is being thoroughly exercised when it is allowed out. Work them thoroughly once a day or a couple of times a day if possible. If you have a whole day free, make it worth both your whiles and go out for the day. Pack up a lunch and go for a long walk together. Allowing your horse to eat from the hedge or when you stop won't hurt either as they are designed to forage on the move.

Bits, bridles, saddles, martingales, tie downs, boots... Nothing is natural about them. It's not plausable to ask everyone to ride bareback and bridleless though and in most of the UK it is illegal to ride a horse on the road without a bit. That doesn't mean you need a huge contraption in it's mouth with draw reins and various other *magik kool aid* gear on your horse. All our horses are in a pelham. Tralee has been in a pelham since he started hunting and it feels comfy in his mouth. We did have him in a snaffle for a while but he spent a lot of time champing it and tossing his head so we put him back in his pelham which he goes softly in. Rocky started in a jointed snaffle which just banged the roof of his mouth causing him to lift his head at every downward transition. We got him a thick half-twist straight bar snaffle which he went better in but still had a habit of tanking in when he got panicked. He was changed to a pelham which not only gives emma some brakes if he has a spacky moment but is starting to produce quite a different outline in him. Nell was in a pelham when we bought her and was rather hard-mouthed. She is still in her pelham so I have stopping power if I need it but because she is neck reined the effect is nicer in her mouth than any jointed bit. The moral of this is that something is only as harsh as you make it and that small changes can make a difference in time. Horses live a long time so there is no point trying to rush them with gimick training aids.

As well as minimal gear you should be riding with minimal movement. Don't crank on your horses' face or flump around in the saddle. Get some lessons or if you can't afford them, try mucking out for some or ask a friend who can ride well to give you some tips. If you choose the latter though take their word with a pinch of salt. Not everyone who can ride well does so with respect for their horses well being. Riding bareback is a fantastic way to improve balance. If you are hard handed or are balancing on your horse's mouth you need to have your reins taken away. Either have someone lunge you on a reliable horse or slowly increase the length of your rein every time you ride so you are not so reliant on the horse to balance. I have been teaching my friend Kathryn to ride and the first thing I told her was not to balance on Rocky's mouth. I said she could use the pommel or even a handful of mane but the rule was that the rein should always have some slack in it.

I am by no means perfect - no one is - but I intend to improve for my horses' benefit. I have very soft hands to a fault where my instructor used to dispair of my long reins despite the mare going well for me. My seat needs to improve though and my forward posture gives me a bad back nearly every ride. I need to improve my balance bareback and because no horse should have to put up with a heavy, unfit rider, I must get in better shape. No one is perfect but for your horse's benefit you should try to be as close to it as possible.

Saturday, 4 June 2011

It's official...

Nell is barefoot. Tony came out last week and pulled her shoes as I've finally got enough money for a set of Cavallo simple boots. Not only will this save me money in the long run (good thing seeing my work hours have been docked), but it will hopefully stop her being so footsore over harder terrain. She'll be ridden barefoot when we do roadwork but off road will be made much more comfortable with her soles and frogs covered by the boots. She was fine immediately after the removal but incredibly footy the next day. I read that it may be due to an increase in circulation or the numbing effect from shoes wearing off. Other people have assured us its completely normal and within a few days she was feeling better and had her first ride in the field barefoot yesterday.
Tralee is getting a bit like an old man whose had too many beers. He's not fat as such, but he definately needs more muscle definition to stop his belly hanging. I've been riding him a lot lately as mum hasn't had the time. I am hoping that I can use him for a little jumping this summer now that the ringbone has near enough fused. We tested him over a single jump yesterday and changed it between a crosspole, parallel and fake ditch to see what needs working on. I havn't tried a spread or oxer yet because its been several months since he or I have jumped. I was a little nervous seeing as Nell was my usual jumping horse up until a few months back. Tralee is much narrower and there's a lot less to hang onto when he refuses or prats about. He was being a bit silly by cantering instead of trotting and trying to stop halfway over a jump (a bad habit his Loan rider got him into) but I was comfortable enough getting back on him. Like a favourite old seat that you'd forgotten about then sat on again on a whim.

Monday, 25 April 2011

So much to do, so little time...

Well in the ebb and flow of daily goings on, money is yet again becoming an issue. We almost faced the tough choice of selling Rocky last month but thankfully Emma has stepped up to the plate and is loaning him to take some of the financial strain off. My new job in the chicken house is going fine although the cash seems to be going out just as fast as it goes it and I really could do with some extra hours. I'm saving up for a set of Cavallo Simple boots for Nell with the hope of saving a bit of money from shoeing as well as making her more comfortable of hard ground which has always been a problem for her. I have heard being barefoot with boots can also help ease tendon issues by changing the way pressure is distributed but I'm not holding out too much on that front in case my hopes are dashed. She's been lame on and off again all month with very little indication as to what is triggering it. I really don't know what to do about it anymore and it seems that I will just have to work around how she is feeling on any one day. Retirement is not really an option for a good-doer like her and while I wouldn't mind not being able to ride, I rekon she would easily start to get bored and cause problems on the ground. She can still walk soundly so for as long as her back is still good and she has the interest I'll carry on riding her - even if we only walk the whole ride.

Sunday, 13 March 2011

Lights...Camera...Rocky?

Yes, believe it or not, Rocky can actually run. And beautifully at that. He certainly has changed a lot since we bought him.


Saturday, 5 March 2011

New Tralee photos

I was only thinking last week that I hadn't taken any new photos of the horses for a while and as they are all starting to come back into their summer coats and the weather was beautiful we decided it was high time to take some new action shots.
And just for shits and giggles...

Friday, 25 February 2011

Bouncing Back


Since our first test ride, Nell has been on a strict fitness regime starting right from scratch. She has been walking and trotting only to help build muscle tone and now on the 5th week she has started short spurts of canter on the flat. Keeping her weight down will also be incredibly important in order to keep her sound from now on as the less weight she has to put on her tendon the better. She works in brushing boots all the time now to help support the leg and is doing lots of roadwork to harden her tendons and hooves. 3 rides a week is the minimum she must do so I have to make an effort even if its raining to get off my butt and ride her out. I am hoping to lose a bit of weight this year as well to ensure she isn't struggling. As long as everything goes to plan I will be starting a job in the chicken house up at Kestal which will require cycling up there and back every day. Extending that by going home the long way should shift some excess weight and increase my fitness. After all I shouldn't expect Nell to get fit and be sound while compensating for an unfit rider. All being well, I hope to get a project horse this year. There is still a lot to do however and for as much as we manage to finish, something new is always around the corner to send us back to square one. That's horses I guess...

Friday, 31 December 2010

Feeling better

I took Nell out for the first time in a month today. Tony the farrier had ordered I give her field rest as he had also picked up on the inflamed tendon and said to give her a few weeks off and today I decided to try her on a gentle hack around three gates. Or at least it was meant to be gentle. She was fresh and bouncy so we actually did a lot more than I thought she'd want to and I had to fight her to stand still or slow down on several occasions. She is short stepping ever so slightly in the walk and trot but her head set is level and sound. She may always have a slight issue with that leg but thats old horses through and through. I have also made the hard decision to stop jumping her. Popping a log occasionally on a hack won't hurt but I won't be taking her into the mini jump classes like I had planned. She loves to jump and so do I but for her own good it won't be a regular occurance anymore.

In other news, Rocky was ill before Christmas with an abcess under his jaw. It wasn't strangles although the location was suspect and the vet gave him some antibiotics to perk him up. He's much better and it's mostly healed so he also went out today. He has a pelham and double rein now and his downward transitions are already looking better now that he is unable to evade the bit.

Saturday, 20 November 2010

Disheartened

Nell has been lame on and off for the past year. She gets a little lame, it gets better, she's sound, she goes lame again, she's footsore, she's not tracking up, she's full of energy and eager to go, she's sound, she's lame again... I knew when I bought an older horse we would experience a few issues but for the first year I had her she was 100% sound. Last summer she suffered a tendon injury. The vet didn't pick up on it when she was lame and we only found out by the time the scar tissue had formed a bump on the back of her foreleg. Now I think our jumping career is over before it's begun. At first I thought it was being stabled that was triggering the lameness but now it seems to be after any jumping. She was sound so I tried her over a couple of small jumps after hacking yesterday and today she was sore again. There's no way we could afford any treatment and probably can't justify it. I can't afford another horse and selling Nell is out of the question. It just seems so unfair when I was just getting my confidence back and Nell was improving. I can still hack her to my heart's content but with so little soft ground and Nell's intolerance to the hard, I wonder just how much fun I will be left with when I'm wondering if she's hurting. So I'm feeling down and a just a little bit lost at the moment...

Sunday, 7 November 2010

Deadly Equine disease in Cornwall

Horse owners everywhere, including ourselves are starting to panic over an outbreak of Atypical Myopathy here in Cornwall. 12 horses have died so far including 1 from the Daniel's Morgan stud (the other survived but is said to have lasting problems) and Gemma's Jasper. Poor Gemma has lost two horses in just over a year of each other. First Lucy Loo and now Jasper which really came as a shock as I had been for a ride with them only two weeks prior to his death. He was an endurance horse and was increadibly fit and healthy so his death was very unexpected. Our thoughts are with Gemma during this heartbreaking time.

The disease is thought to be caused by toxic fungal spores and is at it's worst after heavy rainfall and has some links to horses fielded in areas densely populated with trees. The symptoms include varying degrees of stiffness and dark coloured urine and unfortunately, as of yet, the only treatment involves anti-inflammitories and drips which still has a very poor prognosis. Preventative measures are to stable after and during heavy rain and to rotate to a paddock where there are fewer trees if possible. Supplementary feeding of hay and grain feed will prevent foraging on the ground and the possible consumption of leaves or plants containing the fungus.

There is no telling where it might happen next and is not considered contagious so isolation is not effective. We are all hoping for a long dry spell or heavy frost in order to kill the spores.

Monday, 11 October 2010

Winter is coming!


Yup, its that time of the year again when the wellies come out and the rugs are thrown on. We have had a mild October so far with some days reach 20 Celcius so the horses are fine in lightweights on wet days and growing hair on the cool dry ones.
We have started preparing the fields and stocking up on hay and got the waterproofing tested last week when we had a night of torrential rain. As it is, Nell will not be able to use her stable until the roofing is fixed - it was like a slushy straw pit after just one day. Thankfully we are swapping 10+ bags of horse crap for a roof repair from one of mum's gardener friends so that at least will be one less thing to worry about. The stable doors were an excellent investment and (with a little engine oil for bad taste) have withstood Nell's crib biting. The next thing on the list is to get the wooden stakes bedded in, insulators fitted and electric rope done so that the fields can be segmented without fear of Tralee breaking it all down when he's bored.

Saturday, 18 September 2010

Project pony wanted!

The Joe Moyle's Sale is an annual event to pick up bargain basement ponies and horses. Most are youngstock, hairy cobs or trotter types, some with issues, others pregnant, others with foals at foot. Colts there are often ungelded and a few are truly wild. But we went to the sale because of the garuantee of a cheap deal.

Peter from Tregurtha was taking the lorry and I was allowed to come along on the condition that I shut my mouth and listened to him if he said a horse wasn't worth it. That's peter all over. He was there to sell a kitten, chickens and various bits and bobs that accumulate around livery yards like old bikes and hutches.

There were a couple of high quality horses there; in specific a huge leopard appaloosa stallion and a fresian stallion as well, both of which were just being advertised rathter than sold. Then their was the dun gelding in the barn who was also very nice. He was a real dun with a dorsal stripe and a lovely honest face. The other horses were not so correct conformationally but a few still worthy of catching my eye. The first was a 3 yr old pinto but on closer inspection it appeared to have a cataract and the girl selling it put me off completely when she bulldozed through the crowd shouting and waving her arms around at it for no reason. There was a small haffie mare with a foal a crossbred foal at foot and possibly pregnant again. another possibly pregnant 2yr old coloured cob caught my eye but we didn't really want anything that may or may not surprise us with a foal. There was a black 2yr old filly cob who although hairy and a bit ugly would have been ideal if it weren't for the price tag of £850. As it was I only took £300 with me. There was a pretty clydesdale bay sabino mare of 13yrs but she was too old for what I wanted. We nearly bought a 3yr old coloured filly to make 14hh but Peter said £275 was too much for such a small horse so we left her.

So we are still searching. We heard a rumour that Penhalwyn are selling youngstock off very cheaply so we might go have a look there. Stay tuned, I may be back soon with my first youngster!

Thursday, 12 August 2010

The UK wouldn't accept this, Why does the USA?

Now, I usually don't do posts like this but after watching several videos and reading many blog entries I feel I need to express something that disgusts me. The treatment of Tenessee Walking horses in padded shows. For those who don't know this is the TWH natural fith gait - the running walk. As you can see its a movement where the front and back legs on one side move together rather than the opposite front and back as in the trot. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVyFST01Tiw&feature=related


Even this foal exhibits the lovely gait at just a few days old.

And this is the monstrosity that the USA have turned these horses into.
That stupidly exaggerated foreleg movement, tail set, sunken hocks and pained expression are all results of sticking huge weighted pads on these horses hooves, shoving great long shank bits in their mouths, setting their tail bones into a tight loop and putting chemicals on the legs that burn the horses to make them lift those forelegs up, up, up! Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuqN9n4RF4Y&feature=related ....Seriously, I don't know any respectable people who break horses at 2yrs, let alone bend them into such freakish shapes. And if you need yet more proof that these horses are indeed abused to make them do that here you go!
That horse is just screaming pain. And yet no one seems to be paying attention or caring for that matter. If I saw a horse standing like that I'd assume its pedal bones had dropped and it needed euthanising. What I want to know America, is why you have allowed this to go on and accept it - even give prizes for it? The cruelest sport you see here in the UK is fox hunting and thats even been banned now so what makes your country so special that you can blatently abuse horses in plain view? Seriously, this crap is what makes every Brit think you are all a buch of inbred fucktards. Now, I have met a couple of very nice americans but after all, they are the ones who came over here because they couldn't stand the crap you guys pull over there. And as for the Humane Societies involved, they are all a bunch of cowards. They have powers many people can only dream of and they have done nothing to stamp out something the the horse world has been crying out to see abolished. Flat shod horses rule. Padded horses should never have come into existance and the longer it has been left the bigger those shoes are and the more acceptable abusing those horses has become. If I took a horse to a show looking like that, I would be savaged by angry horse lovers. Perhaps that is the difference here. People in the UK who have horses actually LOVE them. I guess horses in the USA are just a business (which might I add, isn't going exactly swimingly either considering the prices their horses sell for at auction). For those who see eye to eye with me, their are several blogs who are highly informative on subjects like this. I warn you now that most are blunt and straight to the point and unless you agree with the writer, keep comments to yourself unless you like being torn apart or looking for a fight. Please take a good look at the wider world around you. We have a voice and we can use it. I hope to see the end of padded horses during my lifetime.

Sunday, 1 August 2010

Financially Stable?

Well, things have been quiet lately. The horses are all going out on part loan to help pay for the supplies we need before winter get here again. Tralee has already got someone to loan him who is a good rider but has lost confidence. She has been riding without fail in all weather so we are hoping she will be an all-year loaner. Considering she was paying nearly £30 for a private lesson and travel costs per week she has saved herself a considerable amount of money as we are only asking £10 per week which should cover his shoes at the end of 6 weeks + a bit of hay money.
There are lots of things to be done and I seem not to find the time to ride much lately so it is just as well that even Nell will be put on part loan so that she is still getting the exercise. I am reluctant to let anyone else ride her but struggling financially is not an option and Mum and I have already decided that we would rather shoot the horses than sell them to someone who may not treat them properly. Grim discussion aside, the weather has been mild albeit dull and overcast and thanks to the school which my mum cleans chucking out an old goal post, I have some new jump poles. Strangely the interlocked poles are the perfect size for jumping and I have enough for the 5 pairs of jump wings that my Uncle is making for me soon, depending of course on how much he's going to charge me.
Nell is still suffering with her skin - her legs are still itchy and she now has sweetitch on her mane where she has been badly bitten. She had little bite absesses all the way up her central parting which we burst, applied sporal-D and TCP and have lagged her mane in aloe vera and aqueous BP to condition the roots and sooth the itching. The injection of ivermectin for feather mites has had no effect on her itchy legs and cost us an arm and a leg but at least they are all completely parasite free!
I'm hoping to update the banner as well a bit so expect some new pictures up there.

Thursday, 24 June 2010

Just a little lazy

Yeah, So its summer. I've been lazy about riding and the sticky hot weather does not help. Tonight however I am a free woman, as College is finally finished! I'll be sad to leave many wonderful tutors and fellow students behind but I now have some very firm friends for life who I will certainly make an effort to catch up with regularly. Lisa will come riding with me as well as taking our pet rat passion to the market, Kathryn is interested in trying to ride and lives just up the road and as for Emma, well shes family, so I'm stuck with her.

Tuesday evening was a lovely day for the beach so Lisa and I headed down for a nice ride. The water looked lovely and cool and I got Nell in further than I ever have before. I might even get her to swim with me someday. Mum and I will be speaking to Chris Cook this week about training Nell to pull a trap, which is going to be my big summer project.

This autumn we are also hoping to hitch a ride up to the Joe Moyle's sale with the Tregurtha lot and have a good look around. Who knows - we may bring something home if I can find another job to support an extra beastie. I have been planning for a while to get a quiet youngster as a first breaking project. Something hairy, a bit lazy and about the age of 3 but unbroken. The plan is to break it in then ride it out for 6 months to hopefully make a profit - although the experience is always good even if I never make any money!

Helen's friend has a haflinger stud colt who should be ready for breeding by next spring. providing I can get Nell down to a fair weight I am hoping to breed her at the beggining of summer, ride and drive her for a few months then turn her away for the winter, during which I might fit in a breaking project youngster. It would definately be a keeper, either to replace Tralee, when he gets too sore, if it's a colt or as something with a bit more go for myself if it's a filly. Even Helen said that our old horses won't last forever and that if I am going to have one last foal from Nell it better be soon. after all she will be 19 next year although she could be older. You'd never know it though looking at her! I know the Westfalen Haflinger Association have her on record somewhere because her brand number is unique to her, but as most people will they are trying to weedle more money out of me (250 euro to be precise) for a full DNA test that she should not need! It would be helpful if I could get her information that would allow her foal to be registered, but if I can't then its not going to be sold anyway so it doesn't really matter to me if I know its pure. Anyway though, that's a long time off so I shan't think about it too much or get my hopes up. I'm just going to look to the near future first and work on getting her in a trap and driving.